RE: Meta non-discussion (could be ignored)

[Ned Freed <NED@INNOSOFT.COM>]

> As exemplified as above two quotations, your opinion is full of self
> contradicitons.

Here are the facts as I understand them:

(1) The 822EXT Working Group will soon be no more. This is the fate of all
    Working Groups once their task is complete.
(2) There is no pending action to discuss character set issues in the
    822EXT Working Group.
(3) There is no requirement that MIME extensions of any sort be discussed
    by the 822EXT Working Group.
(4) The ietf-charsets mailing list was started to discuss character set
    issues on the Internet, including MIME usage.

Now explain to me which of these statements are invalid and how they are
contradictory.

> > (You have now heard this from an Application Area Director and from one member
> > of the Application Area Directorate.

> I recommend you to think much more consistently and logically before
> saying anything as an application area directorate.

I don't tell you what to do. Please show me similar courtesy -- this is just
plain offensive.

> I must point out that there was no MIME specific discussion in the last
> BOF.

And how does this possibly lead to the conclusion that no such discussion can
ever take place? 

> I have seen no documentary evidence presented by you.

If you follow the pointers I have given in previous messages you will find
plenty of documentary evidence. I have cited numerious RFCs and Internet Drafts
defining MIME extensions, none of which have been discussed by the 822EXT
Working Group.

> BTW, unlike area directors, an area directorate have, officially, no
> power over IETF, I think. Am I correct? 

Area directorates have no official power at all. But area directors do, and
John Klensin is an Application Area Director. The only reason I jumped into all
this is because you rejected the normally definitive statements of an Area
Director, and I wanted to illustrate that there's considerable consensus  on
how this stuff is to be handled at the director/directorate level.

This is my last message on this subject. Given the offensive tone of your
messages and the fact that your position just isn't credible, I see no reason
to say anything more to you.

				Ned