RE: Update of charset windows-1252, draft 3

[McDonald Ira <imcdonald@sharplabs.com>]

Hi,

Yes, and 2978 and its predecessor _require_ a 'cs' alias
for all valid registrations.  I very much dislike the MIB
containing only auto-generated ones.  For a variety of
reasons, the existing 'cs' aliases do NOT agree exactly
with what the auto-generated ones would have been.  

If we deleted a 'cs' alias from the Charset Registry, it
might well become a _different_ 'cs' alias in the next 
version of the Charset MIB - an interoperability nightmare
for MIB implementors tagging charsets for I18N.

'cs' alias continues to be required for registrations.

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
phone: +1-906-494-2434
email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Duerst [mailto:duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 12:57 AM
To: Erik van der Poel; McDonald, Ira
Cc: Kent Karlsson; ietf-charsets@iana.org; mikeksar@microsoft.com
Subject: Re: Update of charset windows-1252, draft 3


Hello Erik,

These are good ideas to discuss if and when we embark on a
revision of rfc 2978. For the moment, all we are doing is
catch up with registration backlog.

Regards,     Martin.

At 14:44 06/11/07, Erik van der Poel wrote:
>It might be somewhat redundant to have cswindows1252 in both
>http://www.iana.org/assignments/ianacharset-mib and
>http://www.iana.org/assignments/character-sets. Since the latter has
>the MIBenum value (2252), interested parties can look this up in the
>former file to find the cs name.
>
>We would probably also want to change the rules regarding the cs
>names. From that point on, cs names would only be put into the mib
>file, while the MIBenum number would go into both files. Thoughts?
>
>Erik
>
>On 11/6/06, Erik van der Poel <erikv@google.com> wrote:
>> In http://www.iana.org/assignments/character-sets it says:
>>
>> "These aliases that start with "cs" contain the standard numbers along
>> with suggestive names in order to facilitate applications that want to
>> display the names in user interfaces."
>>
>> And in ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc2978.txt it says:
>>
>> "All charsets MUST be assigned a name that provides a display string
>> for the associated "MIBenum" value defined below."
>>
>> This wording (particularly the word "display") would seem to suggest
>> that these cs names are not really intended to be used "on the wire".
>>
>> However, putting these cs names on lines that start with "Alias:" in
>> the registry has caused a number of implementors to believe that they
>> are normal aliases:
>>
>>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/author/dhtml/ref
erence/charsets/charset4.asp
>>
http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/intl/uconv/src/charsetalias.properti
es
>>
>> I still don't think it would be a good idea to add any "Alias:" lines
>> to the windows-1252 registration. One possible solution would be a new
>> line that starts with "MIBdisplay:" to go along with the "MIBenum:"
>> line.
>>
>> Erik



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